Directed by: Mahir GunsirayDramaturgy by: Cetin SarikartalTranslated by: Salah BirselStage Designer : Claude Leon - Selim BirselMusic : Turgay ErdenerLighting Design: Yuksel AymazTechnicians: Ece Eroglu, Ayca DamgaciActors: Alper Develioglu, Guven Ince, Mahir GunsirayThe date of premier : 18.02.2000 |
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Interview with Mahir Gunsiray
POSITION OF A WOMAN IN MAN DOMINATED SOCIETY AND MASTER-SLAVE RELATIONSHIP: "THE MAIDS", Emre Koyuncuoglu, Cumhuriyet, 27 April 1997
Why did you prefer male actors to perform female characters?
M.G - Jean Genet claims that he wants male players to perform female characters
in his plays. We searched the reason for this. Then we find out the reason is
also suitable for us; and we made our decision as male actors.
If you have a look at he theme of the play, you'll se that it's not only a women
play. The play "The maids" tells about master and slave relationship.
On the other hand it investigates position of women troughly in men dominated
society. In this point of view, play turns to a dying-killing game. Therefore,
performing it with male or female actors displays no significant difference.
And at the same time performing with male players has some advantages in increasing
the effects of the play. Firstly, when it is staged with female actors all the
elements shelters in text would be translated in very "normal" platform.
The most important way of performing with men is creating an abnormal situation.
This also includes the idea "creating a body (trunk) show that bases on
abnormality" of Jean Genet. Our purpose was to manage discovering the new
expressions with joy on stage. In play with male actors, we create a distance
between the 'meaning' and its voiced-articulation. In this way we have the chance
to threaten the words/statements and make them reperceptable again.
But in text, isn't the form of relationship between women is also emphasized?
But on stage, it's between men as soon as requested. So how did you approached
to this interpretation?
M.G.- Actually, it's a play about women-men problems. "the lady" is
also in a slave position towards "the husband". So her relation with
the maids is based on a dependence. I, personally don't want to live in a man
dominated society. And as an actor, I have the chance to represent a woman's
situation in a man dominated society. As male persons, more or less we like
to take some responsibility about this issue.
In your opinion, can men solve problems of women?
M.G.- In our performances, plays, we more want to show that 'we are living that
situation' instead of trying to solve something.
Is there a physical language in play?
M.G. - We tried to discover very different voices. With those voices and differences
in tones and rhythms, we tried to make the words re-comprehensible. But there
are some levels in play. In this way, we separated some scenes from each other
by different acting styles, physical languages and voices. Genet feels sick
about "being distanced from traditionalistic, cool-headed acting, academically
educated and urbanely characterized presentation and classical attitudes"
In Stage design, in costumes and in some references in acting, we see an
eastern style.
M.G. - Yes that's a choice we did on purpose. There's another saying of Genet:
"Where ever the play is being staging, it must considered harmoniously
to that region." "Where ever in world there were people who were looked
on with scorn, and people want to escape from slavery and humiliation, I was
on their side." And truly he did it this way. And if take this idea as
basis, it's really important for us the area we're stepping on. It's said that
we re in the east side. If you'd pay attentioned, our costumes, pants are from
Bitlis; jackets are old "efe" jackets and inspired from old Ottoman
costume arms. In costumes west and east are against each other. That's a very
important point for the play. Of course, our physical movements are in a way
closer to the Orient.
Did you build an east-west relationship in woman-man dilemma?
Actually, here, there's a micro or a minor attitude. We approached with Hegel's
approaching to master-slave relationship. It's obvious that nobody's going to
be a master if there won't be any slave. And if east is 'the other' considering
to west, in other words in a slave position; as long as it carries the purpose
of dominance, opposing of east against west will be dissolvable. The problem
is, staying away from the danger of building a contrary dominant discourse.
From this point of view, we can both approach to contradiction between woman-man
and east-west with the same attitude.